# Ep 13 | Increase Camp Revenue Without Adding More Guests Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grow-your-camp-7692382/ep-13-increase-camp-revenue-without-adding-more-guests Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grow-your-camp-7692382/ep-13-increase-camp-revenue-without-adding-more-guests.md Podcast: [Grow Your Camp](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grow-your-camp-7692382) Published: 2026-06-19T15:48:48+00:00 Episode link: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/8506acd1bf67d5a3b00169a3a176cf01d363a815309801737bdc5429a6f0272c/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5MTA3YjQxNS0wODgzLTQzNzYtODM1OC05MGZkODcwM2FmMTYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJhMjBiYzA0ZS00MGI1LTRlNjQtYTVmMi02N2VkYTY5OTc1MDkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI0ZmUzZmQ5YTYwMzc4YTgzYjNmOWMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzNTYwODFiOThlM2IxYmUwOTIwYWFhL2dyb3cteW91ci1jYW1wLXBvZGNhc3QtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi02LTE5X18xNy0zMC05Lm1wMyJ9.mp3 Audio file: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/8506acd1bf67d5a3b00169a3a176cf01d363a815309801737bdc5429a6f0272c/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5MTA3YjQxNS0wODgzLTQzNzYtODM1OC05MGZkODcwM2FmMTYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJhMjBiYzA0ZS00MGI1LTRlNjQtYTVmMi02N2VkYTY5OTc1MDkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI0ZmUzZmQ5YTYwMzc4YTgzYjNmOWMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzNTYwODFiOThlM2IxYmUwOTIwYWFhL2dyb3cteW91ci1jYW1wLXBvZGNhc3QtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi02LTE5X18xNy0zMC05Lm1wMyJ9.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grow-your-camp-7692382/episodes/ep-13-increase-camp-revenue-without-adding-more-guests Duration seconds: 3478 ## Resource Many camp leaders assume the only way to grow revenue is to add more guests, build more facilities, or create more programs. But what if growth starts with better stewardship of the capacity you already have? Mark Fisher shares the personal story that reshaped his career, including the health crisis and board decision that led him from camp leadership into consulting. That journey sets the stage for a practical conversation about one of the most misunderstood topics in camping: pricing. Mark and Carl discuss why many camps underprice their highest-demand dates, how waitlists reveal hidden opportunities, and why demand-based pricing is about stewardship—not simply charging more. They break down practical ways to get started, including seasonal pricing, using waitlists as a decision-making tool, giving booking teams flexibility to solve problems, and creating pricing options that help both camps and guests succeed. The episode also opens with a practical marketing tip on expanding your camp's online visibility through free directory listings, including Google Maps, Apple Maps, Yelp, tourism websites, and camp-specific directories. Keywords demand-based pricing, camp pricing strategy, camp revenue growth, camp sustainability, seasonal pricing, camp waitlists, retreat center pricing, camp stewardship, camp capacity management Sound Bites "Our fifth son is being raised by a different father." "That day, that generosity unlocked the future for me." "The F word. It's four letters and it's full." "We're full, we're full. And I'll say, that's a cuss word we don't use. We say, we have a wait list." "Waitlisting is really the indicator on a leader's dashboard." Hosts Mark P. Fisher, Inspiring Growth Carl Lefever, Improve & Grow Chapters 00:00 Episode Soundbites 00:13 Introduc… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grow-your-camp-7692382/episodes/ep-13-increase-camp-revenue-without-adding-more-guests/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/grow-your-camp-7692382/ep-13-increase-camp-revenue-without-adding-more-guests.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.