# Ep 11 | How a Camp Went from Struggling to Waitlisted Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grow-your-camp-7692382/ep-11-how-a-camp-went-from-struggling-to-waitlisted Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grow-your-camp-7692382/ep-11-how-a-camp-went-from-struggling-to-waitlisted.md Podcast: [Grow Your Camp](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grow-your-camp-7692382) Published: 2026-05-22T15:43:32+00:00 Episode link: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/e8535b2e1792f49b2894fdbe7fe30cc097964b04a0e483714f281a439025fd3c/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwNmVmM2FmNC0wMmVlLTQzYzQtYjRjYy1kZGIwODg3MWNkZTUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJhMjBiYzA0ZS00MGI1LTRlNjQtYTVmMi02N2VkYTY5OTc1MDkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI0ZmUzZmQ5YTYwMzc4YTgzYjNmOWMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmExMDc4MzQ5MzdmZWU2Nzk4YzFjMmVkL2dyb3cteW91ci1jYW1wLXBvZGNhc3QtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi01LTIyX18xNy0zNy0yNC5tcDMifQ==.mp3 Audio file: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/e8535b2e1792f49b2894fdbe7fe30cc097964b04a0e483714f281a439025fd3c/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwNmVmM2FmNC0wMmVlLTQzYzQtYjRjYy1kZGIwODg3MWNkZTUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJhMjBiYzA0ZS00MGI1LTRlNjQtYTVmMi02N2VkYTY5OTc1MDkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI0ZmUzZmQ5YTYwMzc4YTgzYjNmOWMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmExMDc4MzQ5MzdmZWU2Nzk4YzFjMmVkL2dyb3cteW91ci1jYW1wLXBvZGNhc3QtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi01LTIyX18xNy0zNy0yNC5tcDMifQ==.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grow-your-camp-7692382/episodes/ep-11-how-a-camp-went-from-struggling-to-waitlisted Duration seconds: 3023 ## Resource Hume New England launched with a bold mission: bring the Hume camp experience to the Northeast and expand gospel impact in a region with fewer large Christian camp ministries. But early years brought operational setbacks, financial pressure, staffing challenges, and a camp model that didn’t fit the realities of East Coast churches. Before the interview, Mark shares a marketing tip about “riding the wave” instead of trying to create one. He explains how listening to church leaders led Hume New England to shorten camp sessions, lower pricing, and redesign programs around what churches and families actually needed—changes that ultimately helped fill more beds and increase ministry impact. Brian Mount then shares what it was like stepping into Hume New England as COO during COVID and leading a turnaround effort that required operational changes, measurable marketing systems, and a willingness to challenge long-standing assumptions. The conversation explores adapting camp structures for smaller churches, embracing guest groups, improving follow-up and marketing accountability, and overcoming internal resistance to change. The results were significant: Summer campers grew from roughly 620 to nearly 1,200 Guest group revenue increased from about $500,000 to $1.4 million Camp seasons moved from empty beds to waitlists Staff morale and ministry momentum dramatically improved Brian also shares encouragement for camp leaders navigating difficult seasons and explains why understanding your market may require rethinking long-held traditions without compromising mission. Keywords camp growth, Christian camp leadership, camp marketing, guest group strategy, summer camp enrollment, camp profitability, church partnerships, Hume New England, ministry growth, leadership development Sound… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grow-your-camp-7692382/episodes/ep-11-how-a-camp-went-from-struggling-to-waitlisted/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/grow-your-camp-7692382/ep-11-how-a-camp-went-from-struggling-to-waitlisted.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.