# Passing the Torch

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Podcast: [Grounded with Jon Tester & Maritsa Georgiou](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grounded-with-jon-tester-maritsa-georgiou-7206504)
Published: 2025-04-28T18:16:18+00:00
Episode link: https://groundedpodcast.podbean.com/e/passing-the-torch-1745864179/
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Duration seconds: 3574

## Resource

Sen. Dick Durbin, who announced his retirement last week, joins JT & MG to chat about that decision after more than four decades in Congress, his experience at Pope Francis' funeral, the future of the Democratic party and more. Plus, what he fears will be the “most serious constitutional crisis since the Civil War.”

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