# Inside Out

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Podcast: [Grounded with Jon Tester & Maritsa Georgiou](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grounded-with-jon-tester-maritsa-georgiou-7206504)
Published: 2025-05-05T18:17:57+00:00
Episode link: https://groundedpodcast.podbean.com/e/inside-out-1746469078/
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Duration seconds: 4154

## Resource

JT & MG chat with Olivia Troye, who worked as a national security adviser to former Vice President Mike Pence. They unpack the latest Trump interview on Meet the Press, what’s likely happening behind closed doors at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and the reasons she left the Trump 1.0 administration in the summer of 2020. Olivia also tells JT & MG what keeps her up at night and what gives her hope moving forward.

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