# Fourth Estate

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Podcast: [Grounded with Jon Tester & Maritsa Georgiou](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grounded-with-jon-tester-maritsa-georgiou-7206504)
Published: 2025-03-23T19:34:55+00:00
Episode link: https://groundedpodcast.podbean.com/e/fourth-estate/
Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ylqaobsbdpz11dcb/fourth_estate.mp3
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## Resource

Legendary political journalist Sam Donaldson joins Jon and Maritsa to discuss what’s changed since he covered the White House, what he would do if he were still in the briefing room, and the moment in history he says the United States has never fully recovered from. This is a free episode of Grounded! If you'd like to get exclusive content or chat with other subscribers, please visit our Substack!

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