# Bad Signal

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Podcast: [Grounded with Jon Tester & Maritsa Georgiou](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grounded-with-jon-tester-maritsa-georgiou-7206504)
Published: 2025-04-01T02:11:47+00:00
Episode link: https://groundedpodcast.podbean.com/e/bad-signal/
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Duration seconds: 3421

## Resource

Former Sec. of Defense Leon Panetta unpacks SignalGate with JT and MG, including the questions he would ask if he were leading the investigation. The three also discuss foreign policy related to Iran and Greenland, and how Elon Musk’s DOGE cuts compare to the balanced budget Sec. Panetta helped craft when he was the director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Bill Clinton. This is a free episode of Grounded! If you'd like to get exclusive content or chat with other subscribers, please visit our Substack!

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