# Sanjay Gupta & Eric Topol - Discuss “It Doesn’t Have to Hurt” book

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Published: 2025-09-05T17:52:40+00:00
Episode link: https://erictopol.substack.com/p/sanjay-gupta-and-eric-topol-discuss
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## Resource

Thank you Jose Bolanos MD , Dr. Zeest Khan , Lawrence Toole , Julie , Stephen B. Thomas, PhD , and many others for tuning into my live video with Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Join me for my next live video in the app. A Brief Summary of Our Conservation We discussed the new understanding and approach to chronic pain, which affects nearly 1 in 4 adults. Dr. Gupta gets personal telling the story of his wife, Rebecca, who has an autoimmune disease and at one point he had to carry her up stairs. He also tells the story of his mother who had a back injury and didn’t want to live because of the pain. How his family members got relief is illuminating. Our whole understanding and approach to pain has changed, with the acronym change from RICE to MEAT. A newly approved drug Suzetrigine (Journavx) exploits the sodium channel gene mutation initially discovered via a family of fire walkers. It’s the first new pain medicine approved for more than 2 decades. Many other new non-opioid treatments are reviewed, no less lifestyle changes (anti-inflammatory diet and sleep), and acupuncture. Sanjay’s research over the past few years has led to a video special on CNN with the same title as the book, set to air 9 PM EST Sunday. If you know someone suffering chronic pain, please share the post. Get full access to Ground Truths at erictopol.substack.com/subscribe

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