# The Silicon Valley Insider In The Pentagon | DoW Emil Michael

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Podcast: [Grit](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871)
Published: 2026-03-23T09:01:27+00:00
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## Resource

Emil Michael went from scaling Uber across 600 cities to rewiring the world's largest military. In the midst of the Pentagon-Silicon Valley debate, the now U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering opens up about what a real partnership demands from both sides. He also shares how he's built three new entry points for defense tech companies, and why America's military is called the "Department of War" again. Guest: Emil Michael, U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering Connect with Emil Michael X LinkedIn Connect with Joubin X LinkedIn Email: grit@kleinerperkins.com Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kpgrit Follow on X: https://x.com/KPGrit ​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins

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