# How Snap Plans to Win the AR Race | Evan Spiegel on Spectacles Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871/how-snap-plans-to-win-the-ar-race-evan-spiegel-on-spectacles Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871/how-snap-plans-to-win-the-ar-race-evan-spiegel-on-spectacles.md Podcast: [Grit](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871) Published: 2025-12-15T10:36:02+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/63adc036 Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/63adc036/fff587a6.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grit-606871/episodes/how-snap-plans-to-win-the-ar-race-evan-spiegel-on-spectacles Duration seconds: 4263 ## Resource Turning down a $3B offer from Facebook is a bold move for any young CEO. Evan Spiegel shares how Snap’s early dream was to stay independent and give its community an authentic voice, a bet that proved right. He also explains why they are now doubling down on AR glasses and why the anxiety around AI deserves far more attention from tech leaders. Guest: Evan Spiegel, co-founder and CEO of Snap Inc. and Bing Gordon, Advisor at Kleiner Perkins ​ Connect with Evan Spiegel X: https://x.com/evanspiegel?lang=en LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-spiegel/ ​ Connect with Bing Gordon X: https://x.com/bingfish LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/binggordon/ Connect with Joubin X: https://x.com/Joubinmir LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joubin-mirzadegan-66186854/ Email: grit@kleinerperkins.com ​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins: https://www.kleinerperkins.com/ ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grit-606871/episodes/how-snap-plans-to-win-the-ar-race-evan-spiegel-on-spectacles/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871/how-snap-plans-to-win-the-ar-race-evan-spiegel-on-spectacles.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.