# Building Cloudflare for the Next 50 Years | Co-founder Cloudfare Michelle Zatlyn Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871/building-cloudflare-for-the-next-50-years-co-founder-cloudfare-michelle-zatlyn Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871/building-cloudflare-for-the-next-50-years-co-founder-cloudfare-michelle-zatlyn.md Podcast: [Grit](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871) Published: 2025-12-01T10:46:36+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/31b70b4e Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/31b70b4e/1f8fff25.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grit-606871/episodes/building-cloudflare-for-the-next-50-years-co-founder-cloudfare-michelle-zatlyn Duration seconds: 3509 ## Resource Fifteen years in, it can still feel like “we’re just getting started.” Michelle Zatlyn , co-founder of Cloudflare, returns to Grit with Joubin Mirzadegan to share how Cloudflare secures the internet for millions, with a vision built to last generations. She also shares why staying close to reality and to customers becomes harder as success compounds, and how Cloudflare is helping content creators regain control in an AI driven internet. Guest: Michelle Zatlyn, co-founder and President of Cloudflare Connect with Michelle Zatlyn X LinkedIn ​ Connect with Joubin X LinkedIn Email: grit@kleinerperkins.com ​Learn more about Kleiner Perkins ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grit-606871/episodes/building-cloudflare-for-the-next-50-years-co-founder-cloudfare-michelle-zatlyn/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/grit-606871/building-cloudflare-for-the-next-50-years-co-founder-cloudfare-michelle-zatlyn.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.