# Building Calm Businesses with Susan Boles

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Podcast: [Grief & Pizza](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grief-pizza-6740583)
Published: 2026-05-26T17:39:31+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/c720fa0c
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## Resource

Susan Boles is a security officer turned fractional CFO/COO whose consultancy, Beyond Margins, is centered on helping people run calmer businesses. She's now pivoting towards Unpublic, which helps online creators protect their privacy and safety—born from realizing her rare combo of security background and creator experience positioned her uniquely to address the harassment, doxing, and stalking risks that come with building parasocial relationships as a public figure online. In this episode we discuss how she's navigating the slow, messy process of shifting what she's known for, why Beyond Margins is giving way to Unpublic, and how she designs her work around illness and neurodivergence using work cycles with built-in rest periods and intentional amounts of space. Links Unpublic Beyond Margins Creators & Guests Marie Poulin - Host Benjamin Borowski - Host Susan Boles - Guest

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