# Jerry Chen | The New Wave of Cloud Innovation

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Podcast: [Greymatter](https://stenobird.com/podcast/greymatter)
Published: 2023-05-02T17:10:05+00:00
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## Resource

Jerry Chen analyzes the shift from massive late-stage cloud funding to a high-volume, early-stage ecosystem driven by generative AI. He explores how foundation models are creating a new application stack and redefining defensible business moats.

## Highlights
- Main idea: Cloud funding is normalizing toward 2020 levels, but activity is increasing at the seed and Series A levels due to AI innovation
- Practical takeaway: The new AI stack requires new layers of infrastructure, specifically for vector databases, prompt engineering, and LLM monitoring
- Trend: Verticalization is accelerating as cloud providers and startups build specialized services for industries like healthcare and government
- Failure mode: Relying on old 'systems of record' alone is insufficient; the new defensible moat lies in 'systems of intelligence.'
- Market shift: Large cloud providers (AWS, Google, Azure) are aggressively integrating foundation models, creating both competition and opportunities for startups

## Topics

Cloud Computing, Generative AI, Venture Capital, Foundation Models, Vertical SaaS, Infrastructure Software, Enterprise Software, AI Security

## Chapters
- 1:00 — Cloud Funding Trends: An analysis of the drop in total cloud investment from the 2021 peak and the return to normalized funding levels.
- 3:50 — The AI Application Stack: How foundation models are driving a downstream effect of new startups in vector databases and prompt operations.
- 6:50 — Infrastructure and Monitoring: The emergence of new tools for LLM monitoring, security, and management as the application stack evolves.
- 11:10 — The Rise of Vertical Clouds: How industry-specific needs in healthcare and government are driving specialized cloud innovation.
- 14:00 — Security and Developer Productivity: The role of security, compliance, and AI-driven developer tools in the modern cloud ecosystem.
- 17:20 — Big Tech's AI Strategy: How the 'Big Three' cloud providers are reorganizing to dominate the AI landscape.
- 18:40 — Revisiting the New Moats: A discussion on systems of intelligence and how chat interfaces are becoming the new system of engagement.

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