# NN Ep:14 - Networked Diasporas: The Case of SeeDAO with Helena Rong

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Published: 2026-01-30T15:58:00+00:00
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, host Felix Beer is joined by Helena Rong, Assistant Professor at New York University Shanghai, to explore SeeDAO as a real-world case study of a proto Network Nation. They unpack how SeeDAO evolved from a Web3 startup into a translocal, diasporic community rooted in Daoist philosophy, kinship, and the pursuit of a "good life." The conversation dives into co-presence, emergence, non-coercive governance, social ledgers, on-chain identity, and how SeeDAO blends digital infrastructure with physical gathering from online town halls to rural pop-up communities in China. A rich, grounded discussion on how culture, values, and practice not just tooling shape the future of Network Nations, and what bottom-up community governance can look like beyond the Western DAO paradigm. 🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet https://x.com/felix_beer https://x.com/helena__rong https://seedao.xyz/ Helena's work on SeeDAO: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5731428 ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – From theory to practice: proto Network Nations 01:10 – Introducing SeeDAO as a case study 02:19 – Digital policy for global nomads 03:20 – Welcoming Helena Rong 04:26 – Helena's research on SeeDAO 05:42 – SeeDAO as a Chinese-speaking DAO 08:00 – From startup to community 09:45 – COVID, isolation & diasporic connection 11:46 – What does a "good life" mean in SeeDAO? 12:30 – Daoist philosophy & Web3 13:40 – Co-presence as the foundation of community 14:55 – Emergence & non-governance as governance 16:23 – Wandering (xiaoyao) as freedom 18:09 – Culture vs tooling in Web3 communities 19:30 – Day-to-day practices inside SeeDAO 20:18 – On-chain onboarding & participation 22:32 – Reput…

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