# Do Ethical GRC auditors really exist?

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Podcast: [GRC Uncensored](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393)
Published: 2025-11-20T13:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://grcpod.substack.com/
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## Resource

In this episode, the crew digs into a messy but necessary topic: what does ethical auditing even mean in a market overrun with automation shortcuts, low-effort SOC 2 audits, and firms that self-declare “quality” without proving it? With Troy actively auditing today and Kendra working with auditors in real time, the team breaks down where rigor actually shows up, where the system is broken, and why SOC 2’s value is slipping as fast as demand for speed is rising. 03:00 – “Quality theater” and firms self-labeling as high quality 04:10 – Who defines quality—auditors or customers? 05:00 – The four-hour SOC 2 audit example 06:00 – The danger of “better than the worst” logic 07:00 – What thorough auditing actually looks like (Kendra’s experience) 09:30 – SOC 2 inconsistency across auditors and firms 11:00 – Should audit firms be objectively measured? 15:00 – Kendra’s “secret shopper auditor” idea 19:20 – Automation platforms producing shallow “green checkmark” results 22:00 – Drive-by auditors rubber-stamping automated data 26:00 – Peer review and “enhanced oversight” gaps 33:00 – Why the industry isn’t incentivized to fix the quality problem 39:00 – Ethical auditors exist—but the system doesn’t reward them Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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