# AI Guardrails, Foot Guns, and the Ostrich Problem Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393/ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393/ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem.md Podcast: [GRC Uncensored](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393) Published: 2025-09-25T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://grcpod.substack.com/ Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6702dcb9c88f09c3e0b9a10a/e/68d44770d4ea86dd593c5baa/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grc-uncensored-7039393/episodes/ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem Duration seconds: 2599 ## Resource This week on GRC Uncensored , hosts Troy Fine and Elliot Volkman sat down with Merritt Baer , Chief Security Officer at Enkrypt AI , for a candid conversation about the collision between AI, governance, and security. Merritt brought decades of CISO experience — from AWS to the intelligence community — and didn’t hold back, fully embracing our podcast name, on what’s hype, what’s real, and what CISOs should be doing today.  Key Moments [00:03:00] – How Merritt uses ChatGPT to re-voice her own drafts — and why she immediately strips out the “saccharine” endings. [00:05:30] – Why security and innovation don’t need to “hold hands” — they just need shared expectations. [00:08:45] – The “foot guns” moment : how an accounting firm’s chatbot started teaching customers to hide assets from the IRS. [00:13:30] – Why most enterprises don’t even know where AI is being used internally. [00:15:00] – How to build guardrails that are realistic, enforceable, and tuned over time. [00:24:30] – Why “ostrich” policies will fail — and how enforcement actions, not regulations, will shape AI accountability. [00:40:00] – Merritt’s closing advice for CISOs: you don’t need to be an expert, but you do need a plan. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grc-uncensored-7039393/episodes/ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393/ai-guardrails-foot-guns-and-the-ostrich-problem.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.