# AI Governance: Insights on ISO 42001 from GRC Two Experts Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393/ai-governance-insights-on-iso-42001-from-grc-two-experts Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393/ai-governance-insights-on-iso-42001-from-grc-two-experts.md Podcast: [GRC Uncensored](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393) Published: 2025-03-13T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://grcpod.substack.com/ Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6702dcb9c88f09c3e0b9a10a/e/67d23656ba1ef91ed08184ce/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grc-uncensored-7039393/episodes/ai-governance-insights-on-iso-42001-from-grc-two-experts Duration seconds: 3176 ## Resource The latest episode of GRC Uncensored dove deep into the magical world of AI governance, specifically on ISO 42001. This week, our guests are Chris Honda , Whistic’s Manager of Security, Risk, and Compliance; and Jonathan LeBaron , MasterControl Senior GRC Engineer with the golden voice. Our due shared their firsthand experiences navigating compliance, business adoption, and the broader implications of AI risk management. Key Takeaways ISO 42001 is becoming essential for companies adopting AI, not just for compliance but to build customer trust. AI risk assessments are more complex than traditional security frameworks, requiring new approaches to impact analysis. Shadow IT and vendor AI features introduce unexpected risks—companies must proactively monitor and review new AI functionalities. AI governance isn’t just about compliance; it’s about trust. Businesses that prioritize transparency and ethical AI use will have a competitive edge. Also, AI may or may not be making us dumber. 02:23 Discussing AI in GRC and ISO 42001 02:56 ChatGPT and AI Experiences 08:07 Implementing ISO 42001: Challenges and Insights 19:20 Third-Party Risk Management and AI 26:43 Scope and Complexity of AI in Software Products 27:57 Challenges in High-Risk AI Applications 29:43 Regulatory Landscape and AI 32:02 Driving Forces Behind ISO Certification 38:53 AI Risks and Business Understanding 43:56 Ethical and Societal Impacts of AI Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/grc-uncensored-7039393/episodes/ai-governance-insights-on-iso-42001-from-grc-two-experts/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/grc-uncensored-7039393/ai-governance-insights-on-iso-42001-from-grc-two-experts.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.