# Surveillance as Power: Richard Grove & William Binney on Targeting Political Dissent

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Podcast: [Grand Theft World on Odysee](https://stenobird.com/podcast/grand-theft-world-on-odysee-4809022)
Published: 2026-07-03T23:22:08+00:00
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## Resource

Watch the full interview here: 👉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3owk7vEEOvs How does mass surveillance affect the average person? 🛑 In this interview clip, Richard Grove asks former NSA Technical Director William Binney how everyday citizens are impacted by state surveillance. Binney reveals that while there might not be an immediate, noticeable effect on your day-to-day life initially, the real danger triggers the moment you decide to stick your head above the parapet. Their interview conversation highlights that becoming politically active, advocating for unapproved principles, or opposing a sitting administration puts you directly in the crosshairs. Binney points out to Richard how gathered data translates into raw power over a population, citing how institutions can easily weaponize information against dissenters—just like the IRS tracking controversy with the Tea Party. #WilliamBinney #RichardGrove #Interview #SurveillanceState

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