# mysticism, chronic illness & the collapse of certainty [w/ Sophie Strand]

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Podcast: [GRACEPILLED with Hanna Williams](https://stenobird.com/podcast/gracepilled-with-hanna-williams-7267150)
Published: 2026-05-26T16:25:22+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Gracepilled, I sat down with writer and animist Sophie Strand for a conversation about mysticism, chronic illness, beauty, ecology, paradox, and the spiritual process of surrendering to a reality that cannot always be explained or controlled. Together we explore animism, Joan of Arc, climate anxiety, mystical experience, riddles and parables, and why some of the deepest spiritual truths only reveal themselves through uncertainty, suffering, and direct lived experience.

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