# Marketing Moment: Betts gets better with Lillie Brown (Ep.118) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/got-marketing-4488813/marketing-moment-betts-gets-better-with-lillie-brown-ep-118 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/got-marketing-4488813/marketing-moment-betts-gets-better-with-lillie-brown-ep-118.md Podcast: [Got Marketing?](https://stenobird.com/podcast/got-marketing-4488813) Published: 2025-10-29T18:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.campaigndelmar.com/podcasts/got-marketing/episodes/2149105908 Audio file: https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/medias/2149105908.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/got-marketing-4488813/episodes/marketing-moment-betts-gets-better-with-lillie-brown-ep-118 Duration seconds: 1018 ## Resource Building a purpos This week on Got Marketing? , we’re back with a quick fire Marketing Moment — a short and punchy episode that dives into one topic worth your time. Mia is joined by fan-favourite guest and Campaign Del Mar’s Community Manager, Lillie Brown , to unpack the repositioning of iconic Australian footwear brand, Betts . Once known for school shoes and shopping centre convenience, Betts is stepping into a new era under the creative direction of Jess Hatzis  — co-founder of Frank Body and Willow & Blake . Together, they’re redefining what it means to modernise a legacy brand with deep roots and fresh ambition. Mia and Lillie explore what makes this rebrand so strong, what smaller businesses can learn from it, and why real brand repositioning goes far beyond a new logo. 🎧 Press play if you love a brand glow-up story done right — and want to understand what repositioning really means in practice.   DM us anytime , or leave a review if you found it valuable.   What you’ll take away from in this episode:  ✨ What brand positioning actually is (and why it lives in your customer’s mind, not your brand book) ✨ How Betts evolved from a shopping centre staple to an elevated fashion brand ✨ Why simplifying your audience focus can grow your relevance — not shrink it ✨ The difference between a rebrand and a true repositioning ✨ The power of collaborating with entrepreneurial, culturally fluent talent (hello, Jess Hatzis) ✨ Why legacy brands lose momentum when they only hire from inside their own echo chamber ✨ Lessons for small business owners: how to see your brand clearly when you’re too close to it   Connect with Lillie Brown: Website: https://www.lilliebrown.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexwithlillie/ LinkedIn: https://www… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/got-marketing-4488813/episodes/marketing-moment-betts-gets-better-with-lillie-brown-ep-118/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/got-marketing-4488813/marketing-moment-betts-gets-better-with-lillie-brown-ep-118.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.