# Kluge's Arturo Perez On Taking Synth Riders Everywhere Beat Saber Won't Go

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Podcast: [Good VR Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-vr-podcast-7726864)
Published: 2026-04-09T13:09:55+00:00
Episode link: https://www.goodvirtualreality.com/p/kluges-arturo-perez-on-taking-synth
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Kluge CEO Arturo Perez joined the Good VR Podcast from his home in Marina Del Rey, California for an in-depth conversation about everything from competition with Beat Saber and the coming addition of Dua Lipa to Synth Riders to layoffs and the overall reduced state of the current VR market. “When Beat Saber dropped out of PSVR 2, we released a song ‘We Are The Champions’ the same day,” Perez said. “We played that up [to] say we’re not going away from this platform. We were day one launch on Apple Arcade with Apple Vision Pro via Apple Arcade with Synth Riders there. We have a demo on Spectacles…and then we were day one partner on Galaxy XR as well with Android XR. So we’re not making a secret that that’s what we like to do. We like to be there first, everywhere that Beat Saber’s not.” The podcast follows recent talks with artist Ashley Pinnick , VR evangelists J oyReign and JDun , and Gravity Sketch founder Oluwaseyi Sosanya joining for unrehearsed conversations covering the kind of focus, patience, passion and curiosity that drives exploration in virtual reality. Perez and I cover a lot of ground across the 1 hour and 17 minute conversation as we talk about everything from work outside VR to ideas like eye tracking that may become necessary in next generation headsets. “We’re not stopping…we’re not going away,” Perez said. Most podcast episodes publish first to paid subscribers. Email editor@goodvirtualreality.com if you have something you want to share. Good Virtual Reality is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Good Virtual Reality at www.goodvirtualreality.com/subscribe

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