# Anthropic Gets Banned Again While OpenAI Lost $38 Billion

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Published: 2026-06-20T00:37:51+00:00
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Anthropic is in a full-blown standoff with the White House after the government banned foreign nationals from using Fable 5, the lab's most advanced model, with less than two hours notice. The ban followed a tip from Amazon's CEO, which is raising a lot of eyebrows given how intertwined these companies actually are. On top of that, OpenAI's audited financials just leaked, showing a $38 billion loss in 2025, and the AI price war is making a path to profitability look even harder. CHAPTERS 00:00 Fable 5 Export Ban 01:45 Andy Jassy's Role 03:15 Anthropic vs White House History 05:00 Anthropic's Defense Statement 06:30 Cybersecurity Leaders Respond 08:15 OpenAI's $38B Loss 10:45 AI Price Wars Explained 12:30 Token Cost Comparison 13:45 Amazon's Data Center Breakthrough IF YOU LIKED THIS, WATCH: → Pentagon Bans Anthropic, AI Agent Leaks, and China's Export Attacks: https://youtu.be/9lIMMjk_vHg → Anthropic Mythos AI Too Dangerous That's the Whole Strategy: https://youtu.be/ai_oGfsNa2g → Pentagon's Anthropic Ban is Falling Apart, Here's Why Microsoft Stepped In: https://youtu.be/u-Wm1uXi5KE SOURCES & FURTHER READING Anthropic Fable 5 Export Ban and White House Conflict • Anthropic's Official Statement on the Fable 5 and Mythos Access Suspension: https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access • Inside the White House-Anthropic Feud Over Fable and Mythos: https://www.theverge.com/column/951516/trump-anthropic-feud-mythos-fable-white-house • How Anthropic Was Forced to Halt Access to Its Top AI Models: https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-halts-access-to-top-ai-models-after-u-s-ban-on-foreign-use-a4bca2cc • What the Fable 5 Export Controls Mean for US Cyber Defense: https://www.lutasecurity.com/post/the-fable-5-export-controls-harm-us-cyber-defense • Anthropic and the W…

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