# What Christians Need To Sing Amidst Our Crazy Times with Matt Maher Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-faith-4507856/what-christians-need-to-sing-amidst-our-crazy-times-with-matt-maher Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-faith-4507856/what-christians-need-to-sing-amidst-our-crazy-times-with-matt-maher.md Podcast: [Good Faith](https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-faith-4507856) Published: 2026-04-16T08:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://6d05c356-6d50-44a9-9115-39d578e09935.libsyn.com/what-christians-need-to-sing-amidst-our-crazy-times-with-matt-maher Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/6d05c356-6d50-44a9-9115-39d578e09935/Matt_Maher_AUDIO_V5b.mp3?dest-id=3880785 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/good-faith-4507856/episodes/what-christians-need-to-sing-amidst-our-crazy-times-with-matt-maher Duration seconds: 2794 ## Resource How Does the Church Sings Through Suffering and Why Do the Songs Matter? Grammy Award nominee and Dove Award winner Matt Maher joins the Good Faith podcast for a conversation about the power of songs and church music to tell the truth about suffering. Reflecting on protest, justice, prophetic art, ecumenism, and even Rich Mullins, Maher explores how the church can hold lament and praise together while still pointing people to the hope and holiness of God. Drawing on Psalm 22 and Jesus' cry of abandonment on the cross, he argues that the church, like Jesus, must sing honestly about pain and abandonment without losing sight of the worship and honor God deserves. *This episode was recorded live at the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference 00:00:00 - Tease: The Duality of Abandonment and Praise 00:01:00 - Introduction from Curtis Chang 05:31 - Conversion and the Impact of Catholic Liturgy on His Faith 08:13 - Theology in Songwriting and Collaboration 09:57- Can Ecumenism Expand Your Perspective? 13:06 - John 17 and Praying for Church Unity 14:35 - Prophetic Calling Comforts the Afflicted and Challenges the Comfortable 16:38 - Protest Themes and the Burden of Truth 20:30 - Holding Space for Both Praise and Lament 21:55 - Christian Justice Movements and Prophetic Action 24:02 - The After Party Album and Amos's Call to Justice 24:11 - That He Will Overcome (musical insert) 26:29 - The Toppling of Empire Lyrics as Inspired by Dr. Mika Edmonson 29:04 - The Neurological and Physical Impact of Music on Memory and Community 34:03 - Personal Storytelling and Lament To Work Out Hard Things 40:00 - Rich Mullins' Influence and Legacy 41:24 - What Is The Song the Church Needs Now, In These Crazy Times? 43:48 - A Warning From Nazi Germany Against Ignoring Suffering Take the Listener Survey… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/good-faith-4507856/episodes/what-christians-need-to-sing-amidst-our-crazy-times-with-matt-maher/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/good-faith-4507856/what-christians-need-to-sing-amidst-our-crazy-times-with-matt-maher.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.