# Victor Gao on Iran: The END of Pax-Americana is Here, US Would Exit War with China a LOSER

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Published: 2026-04-27T09:00:38+00:00
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## Resource

On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to Victor Gao, President of the Center for China and Globalisation. He discusses the rumours of China providing satellite data and weaponry to Iran as it fights the US and Israel, China’s support for Iran and why it hasn’t provided weaponry, China’s role in mediating between the US and Iran, Donald Trump’s coming state visit to China amid the war crimes committed by his administration, the possibility of a US-China war and the possible catastrophic consequences, why 2026 marks the beginning of the end of Pax Americana, China’s gradual reduction of its holdings of US Treasury Bonds, why oil will be increasingly traded in Chinese Yuan, his advice for Iran and the Gulf States, and much more.

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