# Mark Rosenthal on Why Great Sales Leaders Are Skeptical

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Published: 2026-01-15T15:51:08+00:00
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## Resource

Mark Rosenthal is the Chief Revenue Officer at Castle, a $200 million managed security-as-a-service company focused on commercial real estate. On this episode of the Finance Fireside podcast, he shares insights from scaling revenue across vastly different stages—from $194K ARR to $35M at HQO, leading a $3.5B business at Google, and now $200M at Castle. Why great sales leaders are skeptical while great salespeople are optimistic—and how to balance both The "Three Moments of Truth" framework: champion confirmed, time-based incentive, and executive flyover email Why he interviews every candidate, from salespeople to coordinators—holding the bar matters at every stage Connect with Mark: LinkedIn Follow us: Linkedin | X

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