# Darren Fay on Why Compensation Plans Are Art, Not Science

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Podcast: [Go To Masters Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/go-to-masters-show-6426488)
Published: 2026-02-06T16:53:27+00:00
Episode link: https://go-to-masters-show.transistor.fm/episodes/darren-fay-on-why-compensation-plans-are-art-not-science
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## Resource

Darren Fay is the VP of Operations at Littera, one of the few full-service AI-native legal software companies. On this episode of the Go To Masters Show, he shares insights from an unconventional path—starting as a firefighter where process and procedures became second nature, then leading operations across Sprint, seed-stage startups, and publicly traded companies. Why firefighting prepared him for operations—both require following processes to keep scenes safe and stable The Five Whys methodology: solve root causes, not surface issues that keep rearing their ugly heads Why comp plans fail when they're too complex or tied to outcomes reps can't control Connect with Darren: LinkedIn Follow us: Linkedin | X

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