# How Much Can We Learn from Ukraine?

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Podcast: [Gloves Off](https://stenobird.com/podcast/gloves-off-7375213)
Published: 2025-07-15T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Living next to a dangerous country is new to us but many countries bordering authoritarian states have a lot of experience. Ukraine has lived in the shadow of a monster its entire existence. What can they teach us? Ukrainian refugee Viktoriia recalls fleeing war-torn Kherson—offering a sobering reminder of how quickly peace can vanish. Lt. Col. (Ret.) Alexander Vindman and war correspondent Tim Mak unpack what Ukraine got right, what they missed, and what Canada can learn from their ongoing war with Russia. Can we recognize the warning signs of annexation and authoritarianism? Or will we look away—until it’s too late? Featuring ( in order of appearance ): Viktoriia, Alexander Vindman & Tim Mak Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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