# How Canada’s Economy Can Thrive

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Podcast: [Gloves Off](https://stenobird.com/podcast/gloves-off-7375213)
Published: 2026-07-22T07:01:00+00:00
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## Resource

In part two of how to build a thriving economy, Stephen Marche weighs the tension between maintaining economic efficiency—making convenient trade deals for short term gain—and building economic resilience—an economy less reliant on external partners. He first speaks with Brazilian economist Monica de Bolle about the drawbacks of her country’s trade relationships with China and America. Then economists John Rapley and Dan Ciuriak outline their visions for building Canada’s economic resilience, overcoming complacency, stimulating innovation, and restructuring investment. Featuring (in order of appearance): Robert Mackalski , Monica de Bolle , John Rapley and Dan Ciuriak For this episode, we have two case studies examining where Canada's economy could thrive, one on quantum computing and one on aluminum . Visit our website— gloves-off.ca for more research behind the issues.  Follow us on YouTube where you can watch our aftershow Cross Check with Vass Bednar of The Canadian Shield Institute and Jon Shell of Social Capital Partners Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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