# Iran is done backing down. Is Trump's war now unwinnable?

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Podcast: [Global Roaming with Geraldine Doogue and Hamish Macdonald](https://stenobird.com/podcast/global-roaming-with-geraldine-doogue-and-hamish-macdonald-6755533)
Published: 2026-07-16T01:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/global-roaming/iran-is-done-backing-down-is-trump-s-war-now-unwinnable-/106850160
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Is Donald Trump trapped in a war with Iran he cannot end? The ceasefire has collapsed, and the warships are back. Chicago University's Professor Robert Pape has been modelling conflict for over 20 years and says both sides look to be caught in an escalation trap: a long war neither can walk away from. Pape tells Global Roaming's Latika Burke and Steve Canane why every off-ramp has closed, why he believes Iran is rising into a new centre of world power, and why the next few weeks could be the most dangerous of the entire war. Guest: Professor Robert Pape, Chicago University Get in touch: We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au Find all the episodes of Global Roaming now via the ABC Listen App or wherever you get your podcasts.

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