# Could Australia and Asia supply our own energy and cut out the Middle East?

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Podcast: [Global Roaming with Geraldine Doogue and Hamish Macdonald](https://stenobird.com/podcast/global-roaming-with-geraldine-doogue-and-hamish-macdonald-6755533)
Published: 2026-04-10T01:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/global-roaming/global-roaming-fuel-crisis-energy-asia-australia-kao-kim-hourn/106483056
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The Middle East conflict has triggered a reckoning in global energy supplies. So as Prime Minister Anthony Albanese touches down in Singapore for talks to shore up fuel supplies, are there opportunities amidst the disruption? Could Australia work with South East Asia to develop more resilient energy supply chains? In this episode, Hamish and Geraldine travel to Jakarta, Indonesia's capital and now the most populous city in the world, to find out. Guest: Dr Kao Kim Hourn, Secretary-General of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) Get in touch: We'd love to hear from you! Email us at global.roaming@abc.net.au Find all the episodes of Global Roaming now via the ABC Listen App or wherever you get your podcasts. *Hamish is in Indonesia as the winner of the 2024 Elizabeth O’Neill Journalism Award. The award provides for a visit to Indonesia supported by the Australia-Indonesia Institute (All) within the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT).

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