# How Do Schools Turn Innovation Into Systemic Change? | Rebecca Wolfe Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462/how-do-schools-turn-innovation-into-systemic-change-rebecca-wolfe Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462/how-do-schools-turn-innovation-into-systemic-change-rebecca-wolfe.md Podcast: [Getting Smart Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462) Published: 2026-05-13T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://gettingsmart.libsyn.com/how-do-schools-turn-innovation-into-systemic-change-rebecca-wolfe Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/gettingsmart/Rebecca_Wolfe.mp3?dest-id=573092 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/getting-smart-podcast-3462/episodes/how-do-schools-turn-innovation-into-systemic-change-rebecca-wolfe Duration seconds: 2702 ## Resource Why do so many promising ideas in education stay stuck in individual classrooms? In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen talks with Rebecca Wolfe about what it takes to turn innovation into lasting system change. From teacher agency and school leadership to accountability and knowledge-sharing, they explore how schools can create the conditions for ideas to spread, scale, and ultimately support learner thriving. Outline (00:00) Intro & The Problem (12:46) Learning From AVID (24:42) School Leadership & Culture (34:15) The Macro Challenge (41:40) Hope & A Bias Toward Action Links Read the full blog here Watch the full video here LinkedIn ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/getting-smart-podcast-3462/episodes/how-do-schools-turn-innovation-into-systemic-change-rebecca-wolfe/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-3462/how-do-schools-turn-innovation-into-systemic-change-rebecca-wolfe.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.