# How Can We Design Learning Spaces That Transform Education? | Kevin Stoller

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Published: 2026-03-25T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Learning doesn't happen "in rows," and Kevin Stoller has seen firsthand how the right environment can change everything. In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia talks with Stoller—author of Creating Better Learning Environments and host of the Better Learning podcast—about designing learner-centered spaces that support movement, choice, collaboration, and community connection. They explore why the term "classroom" can limit our thinking, how districts can better align facilities with instructional vision through a "learning space integrator," and what microschools, team-teaching models, and even museums and hospitality design can teach us about the future of learning spaces in an AI-enabled world. Outline (00:12) Introduction to Learning Spaces (05:09) The Power of Intentional Design (11:26) The Learning Space Integrator Role (18:59) Transforming Existing Spaces (26:30) Inspiration from Beyond the Classroom (30:12) AI, Flexibility, and the Future Links Watch the full video here Read the full blog here LinkedIn Kay Twelve

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