# Subverting Expectations in Titanium Court with AP Thomson

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Published: 2026-07-06T12:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Trent Kusters chats with AP Thomson , creator of the surreal strategy-puzzle game, Titanium Court . Together they discuss his path into games and meeting his long time collaborator Jenny Jiao Hsia ; working together on the award winning Consume Me ; the development of Titanium Court including creating modular systems for faster development; creating the narrative and his advice on becoming a better writer; winning back to back Seumas McNally Grand Prizes ; and subverting player expectations to create engaging experiences. *Editors Note - 40:30: The book AP references here is 'Game Feel' by Steve Swink (he was mistaken about Katherine Isbister co-authoring it, although she is in the acknowledgements). This episode is supported by Xsolla Episode Host: Trent Kusters Producers: Claudio Tapia and Josh Chu, The Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing and leaving us a rating and review . Support the show and get all of our episodes early/ad-free: https://bit.ly/4kU34Lt Follow us: linktr.ee/AIAS Please consider supporting game dev students with: AIAS Foundation

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