# Following Up Disco Elysium with ZERO PARADES: For Dead Spies with Studio Head Allen Murray

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Published: 2026-07-13T12:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Adam Orth chats Allen Murray , Studio Head of ZA/UM Studio and Head of Production on ZERO PARADES: For Dead Spies . Together they discuss the legacy of the studio and the pressure of following up a beloved debut in Disco Elysium ; the deliberate choices they made around the setting and themes; how they implemented over 700,000 words of dialogue; making every decision and moment impactful to avoid ludonarrative dissonance; and balancing their creative vision while deescalating risk. This episode is sponsored by: Xsolla Episode Host: Adam Orth Producers: Claudio Tapia and Josh Chu, The Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing and leaving us a rating and review . Support the show and get all of our episodes early/ad-free: https://bit.ly/4kU34Lt Follow us: linktr.ee/AIAS Please consider supporting game dev students with: AIAS Foundation

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