# Ep 437 | Healing Starts at 10,000 Feet

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Podcast: [Game Changers for Government Contractors](https://stenobird.com/podcast/game-changers-for-government-contractors-51555)
Published: 2026-09-11T12:15:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3199

## Resource

In this special episode, I interview Alex Buggy and John Wayne Walding, from the Best Defense Foundation. together they built the Stronghold program, where special operations veterans spend a week at 10,000 feet in Utah with doctors, NFL players, and operators who've already made the transition. It's peer-led, it costs the veteran nothing, and more than 100 have been through it.

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