# Unisys CEO & President Mike Thomson on AI Hype, Layoffs, Data Centers, and the Workforce Reality Check

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Published: 2026-06-29T13:58:00+00:00
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## Resource

I talk with Mike Thomson, President and CEO of Unisys, about the real state of AI inside companies. We get into why some organizations are using AI as cover for layoffs, why the backlash against data centers is often built on incomplete information, and why enterprise AI adoption will take years instead of weeks. Mike also explains why technical debt, messy data, governance, security, token costs, and workforce readiness are the real barriers leaders need to understand before they assume AI can simply replace people at scale.

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