# McDonald's CEO Ate a Burger Like He Was Defusing a Bomb

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Podcast: [Future Commerce](https://stenobird.com/podcast/future-commerce-570770)
Published: 2026-03-04T12:00:00+00:00
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Phillip and Brian get deep on a week when everything felt a little unhinged: Shopify's AI sidekick started building custom apps, Iran allegedly took out AWS data centers mid-Claude-outage, and the McDonald's CEO went mega-viral just days after Phillip prophesied it. Underneath the chaos, a throughline emerges: the things we've used to measure value (view counts, credit card rewards, third-party apps, and AI contracts) are quietly expiring. Culture is first. Then comes commerce.

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