# Process Over Politics:  Jack Shitama offers a Better Way to Lead the Church

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Podcast: [Future Christian](https://stenobird.com/podcast/future-christian-804832)
Published: 2026-04-21T11:05:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.future-christian.com/e/process-over-politics-jack-shitama-offers-a-better-way-to-lead-the-church/
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## Resource

Why does everything feel so polarized—and what can church leaders actually do about it? Loren Richmond Jr. talks with Jack Shatama about leading as a non-anxious presence in an age of division. Drawing on family systems theory, they explore how anxiety fuels conflict, why identity has shifted, and how leaders can stay grounded, set boundaries, and focus on faithful formation over reactivity.

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