# Sam's Concepts of a Plan vs. Dario's Details for Our Future With AI

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Podcast: [Future Around & Find Out](https://stenobird.com/podcast/future-around-find-out-5737933)
Published: 2026-06-13T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Sam Altman and Dario Amodei both published essays this week on the future of AI and what we must do so everyone benefits. One of them is literally titled "Our Plan." The other one has an actual plan. Kwaku and I dig into it all on this week’s FAFO Friday. Plus — and this story isn’t getting enough attention — according to New Scientist, two years ago Ukraine used fully autonomous “Terminator” drones that killed everything they saw. No human in the loop. Dead Russian soldiers. But rest assured, according to the drone-maker cited, it was just a one-off “test.” But how long until this is standard practice? And do we want that future? So, yeah, maybe we should get planning… --- Support Future Around & Find Out: * Follow Dan on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/dblums/ * Get the free newsletter: https://www.futurearound.com * Become a paid subscriber and help future proof FAFO! https://www.futurearound.com/upgrade Music by Jonathan Zalben

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