# How to Prove You’re Building a Venture-Scale Company

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Podcast: [Fund/Build/Scale](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fund-build-scale-6723964)
Published: 2025-11-23T01:01:19+00:00
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## Resource

Most founders think VCs want a pitch deck full of market numbers, a roadmap, and a feel-good story about the future. Hoxton Ventures Partner Payton Dobbs isn’t looking for any of that. He wants to know if you actually understand the game you’re trying to play. In this conversation, Payton breaks down the tactical stuff founders almost always get wrong: why TAM slides don’t matter how to define your real market what early signals prove you have a painkiller and not a vitamin and why most technical founders fail their first go-to-market quiz before the conversation even begins. He also talks about category creation, how to hire in the U.S. if you’re coming from Europe, why pricing is a strategic weapon, and the number-one question he asks every founder — the one that quietly decides whether you’re playing at venture scale or not. If you’re an early-stage builder, this episode will help you level up before you start meeting with VCs. RUNTIME 1:00:46 EPISODE BREAKDOWN 02:12: Payton Dobbs’ background and the value of building presence in key markets 03:25: Not all good ideas are venture scale: how to assess billion-dollar potential 04:01: Why new category creation is crucial for venture scale startups 06:35: What VCs look for in a pitch deck: TAM, SAM, and logic behind the numbers 08:06: Case study: Deliveroo and building new markets from small segments 09:07: Identifying pain points and leveraging founder expertise 10:57: Advice for technical founders: the value of complementary co-founders and commercial skills 12:23: Building frameworks: due diligence on markets, competitors, and learning from others’ mistakes 13:54: Adapting go-to-market strategies for different business models (B2B SaaS, consumer, etc.) 15:00: The importance of having a perspective and being able to de…

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