# Making Room for Fun and Creating Space for What Actually Matters

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Podcast: [Fun & Bliss Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fun-bliss-show-7840070)
Published: 2026-05-06T17:14:20+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2080

## Resource

In this episode of The Fun & Bliss Show, Monick Halm and Moneeka Sawyer sit down with Lady Jen Du Plessis for a grounded, honest conversation about success, hustle, and the quiet moment many high-achieving women reach but rarely name. Jen shares how working “eight days a week” and watching her life through a window became the wake-up call that changed everything. Together, they explore what it actually takes to step out of inherited definitions of success, loosen the grip of hustle, and give yourself permission to want something different. This is not a “do more” episode. No fixing. No grinding. No checklist. It’s a conversation about boundaries, choice, leadership, and the subtle ways joy and fun slip away when life becomes all output and no presence. It’s also about how to bring them back in small, human ways — without burning it all down.

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