# Tom Kerridge: “Being a Chef is Nothing To Do with Food”

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Podcast: [Full Disclosure with James O'Brien](https://stenobird.com/podcast/full-disclosure-with-james-o-brien-242753)
Published: 2026-07-24T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/james-obrien-podcast-full-disclosure-interview/
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From growing up on a Gloucester council estate to becoming one of Britain’s best-known culinary success stories, Tom Kerridge has built a career defined by resilience, risk and an enduring belief in people. Tom joins James O’Brien to discuss his unlikely path into hospitality, from washing up in country house hotels to the intensity of London’s leading kitchens and the creation of The Hand and Flowers - the UK’s first pub to hold two Michelin stars. He reflects on the energy of professional kitchens, the mentors who shaped him, and why he believes being a chef is “nothing to do with food”. They also explore his growing role as an advocate for hospitality, the pressure of running businesses and supporting hundreds of staff, and his engagement with politics and VAT reform. Tom discusses his television career, his latest series Tom Kerridge Cooks Italy , and why success means seeing the people around him thrive. Tom first appeared on Full Disclosure remotely in 2020, during the Covid period. Returning to the studio, he and James pick up the conversation for a candid, funny and deeply personal look at family, ambition, food and finding purpose through connection. Watch Tom Kerridge Cooks Italy here Full Disclosure is a Global Production Listen or watch every Friday on Global Player, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts.

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