# Francis Fukuyama: The End of History author on democracy under threat

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Podcast: [Full Disclosure with James O'Brien](https://stenobird.com/podcast/full-disclosure-with-james-o-brien-242753)
Published: 2026-09-11T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/james-obrien-podcast-full-disclosure-interview/
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He famously argued that liberal democracy marked the end of history. Now, with war, populism and authoritarianism reshaping the world, Francis Fukuyama asks whether liberal democracy can still win. In this episode of Full Disclosure , James O’Brien speaks to the political scientist and author about the ideas, accidents and encounters that shaped his life. Fukuyama reflects on growing up in a highly intellectual family, his early immersion in philosophy, and why a formative period in Paris led him away from literary theory and towards the realities of international politics. They discuss the collapse of the Soviet Union, the enduring misreading of The End of History , and why he believes the idea of equal human dignity remains powerful despite democratic backsliding around the world. Fukuyama also looks back on his time in US government, his break with neoconservatism over Iraq, and the danger of letting pessimism about democracy become self-fulfilling. Thoughtful, wide-ranging and urgent, this conversation is about big ideas, political mistakes and the case for defending liberal societies without pretending they are perfect. Find out more about In the Realm of the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama here Full Disclosure is a Global Production Listen or watch every Friday on Global Player, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts.

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