# The Anti-Defamation League with Emmaia Gelman

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Published: 2026-09-01T18:16:05+00:00
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Jay is joined by Emmaia Gelman, author of The Anti-Defamation League and the Racial State . We discuss the pivotal role of the ADL not only in running cover for Israeli war crimes and aligning mainstream American Zionism with outright fascism, but also — and maybe more importantly — in the weaving of complex, changing narratives around race, rights, and Jewishness in America and beyond. Show Notes The Anti-Defamation League and the Racial State by Emmaia Gelman The ‘Unpacking Zionism’ podcast The Institute for the Critical Study of Zionism Emmaia’s website Whiteness of a Different Color by Matthew Frye Jacobson The 20X Question The Swastika Epidemic of 1959-1960 Theme music by Surprise Eyes, based on ‘Bonjour, Hi’ by ST x LIAM Links Instagram Merch fuckingcancelled.com clementinemorrigan.com jaylesoleil.com Fucking Cancelled has no ads and is a supported by our listeners. To help us continue our work, consider subscribing. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.fuckingcancelled.com/subscribe

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