# #74 - Riding the Leopard and Living Abundantly

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Published: 2026-05-23T18:38:00+00:00
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“Riding the Leopard… and Living Abundantly” This episode takes the Frugalocity mantra — Do more. Spend less. Live abundantly. — and stretches it into the age of AI, meaning, and what it actually means to be human when machines can do almost everything except live. Richard and Conner dive into Packy McCormick’s viral talk “Riding the Leopard,” a philosophy-heavy exploration of how to stay fully alive in a world of abundance. Instead of asking whether AI will save us or destroy us, the episode reframes the real question: What’s left for humans to do that actually matters? AI Isn’t the Point — Experience Is The hosts push back on the idea that AI’s purpose is productivity. As the episode puts it, “Doing more doesn’t mean doing more tasks — it means doing more living.” AI should expand human experience, not flatten it into sameness or “compress mediocrity.” Packy’s core claim — quoted directly in the episode — is that the meaning of life is to expand the range of conscious experience. Ease alone can make life smaller. Abundance should make life more vivid. Viktor Frankl Enters the Chat Richard brings in Viktor Frankl, whose philosophy from Man’s Search for Meaning fits perfectly with Packy’s argument. The episode quotes and paraphrases Frankl’s central ideas, including: “Life isn’t about what we want from it — it’s about what it asks of us.” (from the transcript) Frankl’s message is that meaning comes from responsibility, choice, and how we respond to life — even in suffering. As the episode explains, Frankl believed: “If you had meaning in your life, you could survive anything.” (from the transcript) And the hosts connect this directly to AI anxiety: when people ask “What am I for?” Frankl’s answer still applies — you are for responsibility, for responding to life, for ch…

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