# Always Be Curious, Not Closing | #10 (Ron Marvo)

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Podcast: [From Underdog to Entrepreneur: Building Dreams with Pat Miller](https://stenobird.com/podcast/from-underdog-to-entrepreneur-building-dreams-with-pat-miller-7617760)
Published: 2026-02-12T07:46:00+00:00
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## Resource

What if the fight that almost broke you became the discipline that built your success? In this episode of From Underdog to Entrepreneur, host Pat Miller sits down with business development coach, former Golden Gloves champion, and podcast host Ron Marvo to unpack a journey shaped by resilience, grit, and relentless curiosity. From a life-altering childhood crisis to championship boxing and ultimately building a scalable business development framework, Ron shares how discipline, trust, and asking better questions can change everything. Together, Pat and Ron break down what separates transactional selling from true business leadership—and why the best entrepreneurs stop chasing deals and start becoming the most trusted resource in the room. Key takeaways from this episode: Why "Always Be Curious" beats Always Be Closing How resilience, discipline, and trust drive long-term success The mindset shift from selling products to protecting clients If you're an underdog with a vision—and the courage to bet on yourself—this episode will challenge you to step into the ring and build something that lasts.

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