# The Friends of NPACE Podcast | Season 3 Episode 20: The Heart of Healthcare: Why We Stay, Why We Leave, and Finding Purpose Again

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Podcast: [Friends of NPACE Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/friends-of-npace-podcast-6705679)
Published: 2026-07-08T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of the Friends of NPACE Podcast hear NPACE Executive Director Dr. Terri Schmitt and NPACE ANCC Program Director Lisa Mathis get real with APPs to let them know they are not alone! They spill the details on how practice has changed for them, best and worst experiences, re-inventing a career, what keeps them going, and advice to APP leaders and healthcare organizations.

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