# THIS is the scientific reason why you're getting bored with friend "catch-ups"// a conversation with Creative Health Scientist Katina Bajaj

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Podcast: [Friend Forward](https://stenobird.com/podcast/friend-forward-1023895)
Published: 2025-11-07T21:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.betterfemalefriendships.com
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## Resource

In this conversation, Danielle Bayard Jackson and Katina Bajaj explore the intersection of creativity, health, and social connections. Katina shares her insights on how creativity is essential for mental and emotional well-being, and how it can enhance our relationships. They discuss the importance of play and leisure in a productivity-driven culture, and how redefining our understanding of creativity can lead to deeper connections with ourselves and others. The conversation also touches on the challenges of perfectionism and the need to prioritize leisure time for a fulfilling life. For the full episode, you've got to be a member of "Office Hours"! Join anytime at betterfemalefriendships.com/podcast Read Katina's Substack (it's actually so good!): Creative Health with Daydreamers | Substack ------------------------------------- Book Danielle to speak about the science of women's conflict and connection at your next event: daniellebayardjackson.com Follow us on Instagram ( @friendforward )

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