# Natural Born Leaders: Knowing When to Lead and When to Follow

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Podcast: [Fridays with Tab and Chance](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fridays-with-tab-and-chance-6027224)
Published: 2026-07-17T11:02:19+00:00
Episode link: https://fridays-with-tab-and-chance.simplecast.com/episodes/natural-born-leaders-knowing-when-to-lead-and-when-to-follow-4Q98d5rr
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## Resource

This episode started as one thing and turned into something so much deeper. Me and Chance got into what it really means to be a leader — not the performance of it, but the real thing. Chance talks about leading from childhood, protecting his friends before he even had words for it, and why his mama refusing to make him say "yes ma'am" to someone who hadn't earned it changed everything. We also talk about code switching, knowing when to follow your partner, and why some of us are born leaders while others learn to be one. This one hit different. New episode every Friday.

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