# How Trump's EPA head has transformed the agency — and sided with polluters

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Podcast: [Fresh Air](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fresh-air-214340)
Published: 2026-04-29T18:28:16+00:00
Episode link: https://www.npr.org/2026/04/29/nx-s1-5805006/how-trumps-epa-head-has-transformed-the-agency-and-sided-with-polluters
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‘New Yorker’ staff writer Elizabeth Kolbert says EPA chief Lee Zeldin has rescinded regulations, cut or eliminated departments and terminated the jobs of many scientists. Trump calls Zeldin "our secret weapon." The Pulitzer Prize-winning environmental journalist spoke with Terry Gross. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy

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