# Verification Creates Friction, and Friction Stops Bad Actors with Joe Ohr | Fraud Watch

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Podcast: [FreightCasts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/freightcasts-478950)
Published: 2026-07-07T15:07:00+00:00
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## Resource

In Episode 9 of Fraud Watch, Phil Brink sits down with Joe Ohr, Chief Operations and Technical Officer at the National Motor Freight Traffic Association, for a conversation about trust, technology, and the future of freight security. Joe discusses why some of the industry's oldest assumptions are being challenged, what surprised him most while studying freight fraud, and why he believes the companies that slow down and verify may ultimately have the advantage. The episode also explores the NMFTA's new anonymous Threat Report Portal and why information sharing may be one of the most important tools the industry has in the fight against freight fraud. Learn more at ⁠https://www.nmftathreatportal.com/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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